Female Fertility in 2018: What Every Millennial Needs to Know *Now* 

Brooke Wallace*, an archivist librarian, calls me from uptown Manhattan on her lunch break. We’re connecting because she just finished the process of freezing her eggs and I want to know how it went.

We start at the beginning. Wallace tells me she first considered the procedure when she and her long-term boyfriend finally broke up after realizing they couldn’t get past him not wanting children. It was a painful split for the both of them, and when the now-36-year-old finally did begin dating again, she found that her dwindling fertility was putting a lot of pressure on how she was navigating the modern dating landscape.

Ironically it was a man who she had been out with a few times that informed her about Extend Fertility, a relatively new, boutique egg-freezing clinic in New York City that caters to women just like Wallace — professional women who are open to the idea of having kids eventually, just not quite yet.

“The minute I decided I wanted to do it I felt empowered,” Wallace recalls. “It was like something clicked inside me. My fear of needles just went to the side and I was committed to doing it. I went into that first consultation and was like, ‘Sign me up. Let’s schedule this for my next cycle.’”

And she did just that. On October 1, 2017, Wallace had 15 eggs frozen.

We’re in the midst of an unprecedented era in the history of female fertility. Earlier this year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that, for the first time ever, American women in their early 30s are having more babies than those in their 20s.

But this shouldn’t come as a huge surprise: At the start of the 2017 fall college term, women were estimated to outnumber men on campuses by 2.6 million. A well-educated, career-focused woman is no longer a rarity; she’s the norm.

Overall, the average age of new moms still hovers around 28, but that number has crept higher and higher in recent decades. The average age of first-time moms was 21 in the 1970s, but by the early 2000s, it was up to 24. The average millennial woman in the US has officially traded the nursery for a seat at a startup.

Despite the strides this generation has made to level out the professional playing field, women are still faced with a biological factor they don’t have much control over: their ovarian reserves. We may be shattering glass ceilings in the workforce, but as author and egg-freezing advocate Agnes Fischer likes to say, ”Our most productive years just happen to coincide with our most reproductive years.” Whether or not there’s adequate science to back that belief up, the fact of the matter is, the necessities of modern life pushing the average age of American childbearing later than ever.

So, I ask in my best Carrie Bradshaw voice: What are women to do?

While biological clocks, unfortunately, cannot be adjusted to reflect the shifted timeframes of contemporary life, when there is a demand in the market, new businesses will inevitably find a way. Case in point: Modern Fertility, a new, at-home fertility test made specifically for ladies like Wallace.

Afton Vechery, who co-founded the company with former UBERHealth exec Carly Leahy in August, explains that she initially became invested in the women’s fertility industry after she decided to get a fertility test done and found herself footing a $1,500 medical bill for it.

“It really stuck with me that infertility today isn’t even treated as a medical condition in a lot of the US,” says Vechery, who had previously worked as a product manager for the genetic testing company 23AndMe. “I started talking to more women and it became this incredibly common theme. Most of us have this really high anxiety about the future and our fertility, but we have no good way to test it.”

Modern Fertility aims to simplify the testing process. Customers receive a testing kit in the mail that asks them to submit a blood sample, which they return in a provided, prepaid envelope to be processed by Modern Fertility’s lab. Within a few days, customers receive a “fertility score,” which is essentially a personalized hormone report plus an age-specific score that they can track over time. The report shows how one user’s ovarian reserve, ovulation, and general body systems compare with others of the same age.

It sounds like a super helpful tool and a first step in the reproductive journey, but here’s the inevitable roadblock: Fertility isn’t a particularly sexy topic. Even the word rolls off the tongue in a kind of jumbled plop. Until it’s something women are seriously considering, fertility isn’t necessarily an issue that’s tactfully explored.

So how do Vechery and Leahy plan to get their target demographic — busy millennial women who might be busy getting doctorate degrees or running businesses — to consider their own fertility as a serious aspect of their overall health? And furthermore, to drop upwards of $150 on a kit?

Vechery is hoping the increasing conversations around the topic will be enough. “We’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this,” she tells me. “Women are talking about it more and more. We did research and found that 86 percent of women in our target demographic [21- to 40-year-olds] have anxiety about their ability to have kids someday. What we’re doing is really focused on providing a company of products and service surrounded by having that conversation in a really productive way, at the right time.”

Vechery and Leahy’s product is a great first step for providing women with the preliminary knowledge of their own reproductive health. For women who are ready to take action, some are turning to a relatively new procedure that’s introducing an unprecedented cultural shift of its own: egg freezing.

The first live birth from a frozen egg was recorded in 1999, but it wasn’t until 2012, when the American Society for Reproductive Medicine took the experimental label off of egg freezing, that the procedure became readily accessible. Since the label was lifted, egg freezing has gone from something done mostly by women going through IVF and struggling with infertility to something women are proactively taking part in as a precaution. Capitalizing on this shift are shiny new clinics like Extend Fertility, where Wallace chose to have her eggs frozen.

When I visited Extend Fertility, I arrived in a nondescript high rise and ventured into a somewhat stale hallway on the fourth floor. However, once I found the door, it was a different world on the other side. The waiting room and consultation areas feel like an IKEA living room or a meeting room in a startup office. It’s far from the cold, sterile feeling often associated with doctor’s offices. When Wallace speaks of the place, she describes it as “spa-like.”

Like its exterior, Extend Fertility’s purpose is visibly and fundamentally different than that of standard fertility clinics. That’s because unlike most clinics, it’s not specifically focused on helping people overcome the disease of infertility.

“Being on the front lines of daily practice at an IVF infertility clinic, it was apparent that the setting of the traditional infertility IVF clinics was not the best way to be helping women learn about this [procedure] and choose to do it,” say Dr. Joshua Klein, the Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Extend Fertility. “They’re just regular 21st-century women who are trying to keep their options open for the future.”

Wallace is a prime example of the type of woman that not only Extend Fertility, but an entire growing industry is beginning to cater to: the modern woman who probably wants kids, just not right now.

“There’s a sort of abstract feeling [about it all],” she says. “It’s a little bit, kind of sci-fi-esque, but I know that if this does result in a child, that October 1, 2017 will be a day of some significance.”

As much as the homey ambiance puts clients at ease, it’s still a very complex and scientific procedure women are considering when they come here. And for many, they’re not totally sure how it all works.

According to Kristen Mancinelli, Extend Fertility’s director of partnerships and education, the egg-freezing process breaks down into four phases:

The Informational Phase: When a patient expresses interest in the procedure, they’re first paired with someone from the clinic for an informational chat that will guide them through the entire journey. That’s essentially an open dialogue where they can ask all their unanswered and common questions, like, how long does it take, does it hurt, how much does it cost, etc.

If a woman wants to move forward, she’ll then come for a fertility assessment, which is basically a more thorough version of what Modern Fertility is offering at-home. This 30-minute assessment looks at two things: an Anti-Mullerian Hormone level (which gives the team a good sense of ovarian reserve, or egg supply) and a transvaginal ultrasound (which can look at the follicles on ovaries that are priming eggs for maturity in that month).

A unique element of Extend Fertility’s process is that they don’t charge for this part of the process (so long as insurance can cover the blood work required). Once the results come back, patients meet with a reproductive endocrinologist who interprets the results of the tests and really discusses whether egg-freezing is the right choice. If the results come back incredibly positive or she decides to hold off, the patient can walk away no strings attached.

The Logistical Phase: Should the patient decide to move forward, she’ll look at a calendar and schedule an egg freezing cycle. In this phase, she’ll sign all the consent forms, make the payment, and learn how to give herself the hormones shots required.

“The hardest part was that I constantly felt like I should be getting pregnant, not laying eggs.”

– Agnes Fischer

The Development Phase: The next time the patient comes in is at the start of her egg freezing cycle. This part of the process can take anywhere from eight to 11 days (it can be different for each patient). This is when women give themselves hormone injections and are required to visit the clinic roughly every other day for a quick “monitoring” visit. Here she’ll receive a blood test and an ultrasound to check in on the progress of the eggs.

When I spoke with Agnes Fischer about her own experience, she describes this phase as the hardest part. “I constantly felt like I should be getting pregnant, not laying eggs,” she tells me.

Wallace also describes this time period as physically challenging. As is commonly reported, she became incredibly bloated and described the feeling as carrying “two bunches of grapes” in her ovaries. “By the end, I had to sit delicately and I was being extremely delicate with myself,” she says.

When the eggs have grown to the right size, the doctor will tell the woman that she’s ready for what’s called a “trigger shot,” which is a different shot that she takes at the end of this phase. Then, a day and a half later, she’ll come in for her egg retrieval.

Egg Retrieval and Vitrification: The retrieval process is relatively quick, taking only 10 to 15 minutes, but it’s invasive enough that anesthesia is required. Once the patient wakes up, she’s mostly done with her part of the deal, but for the embryologists waiting on the other side of the room for the eggs, now it’s go-time.

Once the eggs are extracted, they’re passed in a vial through a small window from the procedure room straight into the lab where someone like Dr. Leslie Ramirez (Extend Fertility’s embryologist who walked me through the process) will be waiting to start the vitrification — AKA, freezing — process immediately.

First, she cleans the eggs of blood and extra cells and looks for healthy eggs under a state-of-the-art microscope. Once the maximum amount of viable eggs are retrieved, they are placed in an incubator for about an hour and a half to recover from the temperature changes in their environment.

After an hour and a half in the incubator, eggs are then deposited on “straws” labeled with patient information and immediately plunged into liquid nitrogen and frozen. The combination of cryoprotectants and faster cooling (compared to the slow freezing method) reduces the opportunity for damaging ice crystals to form.

The “straws” are then capped and placed into canisters for storage. They’ll stay there for a short period of time before being sent to a long-term storage facility, where they’re held until the patient decides to use them.

For an even more detailed account of the vitrification process head here.

Impressive science aside, there’s a very obvious setback for this kind procedure: the cost. Unsurprisingly, it’s incredibly expensive. Though, depending on the circumstance and package selected, Extend Fertility’s egg freezing procedures cost up to 80 percent less than the 2017 national average, the hormones alone can cost anywhere between $2,000 to $4,000. The actual procedure costs anywhere from $4,750 to $10,000, depending on how many eggs a patient would like to try to retrieve, and long-term storage for the eggs will set patients back $350 to $450 a year. Another thing to keep in mind is that, if the frozen eggs are to be implanted at some point, that will inevitably require IVF, which will set patients back $3,000 to $5,000 more.

For women who aren’t able to write a check for somewhere in the $10,000 range (at least) but also want to wait to have babies, that poses an impossible predicament. When I asked Extend Fertility’s Dr. Klein about what can be done to help offset the shockingly high price tag, he tells me this is something they think about a lot.

To the company’s credit, it genuinely does seem like they’re doing all they can to make their services affordable. Extend Fertility patients can select a payment plan if they can’t afford the one-time payment. The clinic also offers discounts to people in certain industries, like teachers and women whose companies are corporate partners. Cancer patients get a “very special” discount.

But the reality is that, until egg freezing becomes either super normalized or a common company health benefit (tech companies like Facebook and Spotify have already started covering egg freezing), buying time is a costly investment.

Scientifically, we’ve found a way to cheat biology to a certain extent, but we’re still venturing into an unknown landscape. Are there cultural implications of older parents that we haven’t considered?

In a study conducted by the University of California, San Francisco, researchers interviewed 46 couples and 15 single women who had used in vitro fertilization to conceive their first child when the woman was 40 or older. 72 percent of women and more than half of men said they felt more emotionally prepared to parent at that point in their lives.

And when parents are better prepared, the kids benefit. A separate study looked into the relationship between older parents and their children’s test scores and found that children with older parents tended to score higher on average. Two other studies have linked the higher cognitive ability and overall well being of these children to the fact that older parents generally tend to be more psychologically mature, better equipped to roll with the punches and not freak out over minor infractions.

Even if the future does consist of genius babies and older parents, there are still a lot of unknowns when it comes to this new wave of parenting and one major question that should be considered: How will it affect the gap between generations?

If men and women are becoming parents closer to the 30-year mark, and their children are to do the same, that will inevitably cause a greater divide between generations, not only in family dynamics but also in places like the workforce where different age groups regularly work together.

There are also potentially higher biological risks that older mothers face that are less common in younger moms, though a lack of research makes this hard to be certain about. According to some studies (and a whole lot of popular wisdom), if a woman gets pregnant naturally at age 40, her fetus faces a potentially higher risk of complications, including stillbirth or genetic abnormalities such as Down’s Syndrome. (Note: These risks purportedly minimized if eggs harvested earlier in life are used, though the verdict is still out on that one.)

Despite the worries bound to accompany such a personal and cutting-edge decision, Wallace is feeling good about freezing her eggs.

“In the days following [the extraction procedure], I’ve already started to become this sort of overbearing mother,” she admits. “I’m like, Where are my eggs? I remember reaching out to the people at Extend Fertility and asking, ‘Where are they now? When are they going to long-term storage?’ And, just feeling almost concerned about where they are and are they safe and are they gonna get mixed up with other ones? I’m still feeling that way.”

The modern world of female fertility is very much still a place where logistics are being figured out, but make no mistake; advancements in this landscape are a true testament to the times. Women’s reproductive health is something the medical community is increasingly recognizing as being worthy of attention. As a result, future families may not form in the same way they used to, but it might just be for the better.

*Some names have been changed at the subject’s request

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I'll admit out of the many teen dramas I've consumed, Outer Banks is one of the most ridiculous. But the insanity surrounding the plot is half the reason it's enjoyable! John B. wrestling an alligator with his bare hands? Kiara getting kidnapped then making a daring escape in her PJ's? John B. and Sarah getting married (kind of) by the power of "the sky, the stars, and the sea" after escaping the SBI?

Considering my favorite fan theory for the future is that Madelyn Cline's Sarah and Rudy Pankow's JJ learn they're secret siblings, I know the crazy train isn't slowing down anytime soon. I took to Reddit to find the wildest Outer Bankshot takes and I was not disappointed. Keep reading to see if you agree with any!

JJ and Kiara Never Should Have Happened

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While JJ and Kiara is one of the most popular ships on the show, a lot of Outer Banks fans think the "no Pogue-on-Pogue macking" rule from the pilot should have stayed in effect. The individual romances between Kiara and JJ, John B., and Pope make the story really messy, and the fact the show writes Kiara to be with all three of them in the span of three years gives a lot of viewers the ick.

I'll be team #Jiara forever (and literally screamed when The Backseat Lovers' "Kilby Girl" started playing during the motorcycle ride in season 3), but I'll say it would incredibly compelling to see a friend group take care of each other as much as the Pogues do without ever crossing over into romantic territory. That's found family, after all!

Pope Should Have Ditched The Treasure Hunt

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One Reddit user is convinced that "Pope should’ve focused on his future in school instead of giving everything up to search for treasure." And TBH, I totally agree.

In season 1, Pope has a breakthrough about the hidden treasure in the middle of his scholarship interview. He ditches the scholarship committee to tell the rest of the Pogues, throwing away a crazy educational opportunity. Pope beats himself up for it, and his parents definitely aren't pleased, but at least it meant he got to stay in the show instead of leaving for college, which leads me to...

Outer Banks Should Have Started With The Pogues In Their 20s

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As one of the only people alive who loves the post-time jump One Tree Hill, I would have loved to see OBX start off with the characters in their 20s (although it looks like that's where Outer Banks season 4 will pick up!). This would eliminate SO MANY problems from the jump because the Pogues wouldn't have to worry about missing school, they'd be more self-sufficient, and instead of being the same old high school drama, it could have provided a commentary on figuring out life in your 20s the same way Friends did.

Rafe Shouldn't Have Any Kind Of Redemption Arc In Outer Banks Season 4

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Drew Starkey the man that you are. According to one Reddit user, "Rafe should not have a love interest or a redemption arc" like we see in season 3. We spent all of season 1 and season 2 establishing that Rafe (played by Drew) would do anything it took to get what he wanted (including one successful murder and two other attempts?!). He shows next to no remorse for his actions, and exploring his literal psychopathic tendencies would take the show to a whole new level.

Big John Should Never Have Returned

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John B.'s dad's disappearance is the catalyst for the Pogues' journey at the beginning of Outer Banks, and Big John's return means the story feels somewhat repetitive in the third season, and it undoes a lot of the growth we've seen from John B. Plus, Big John is just SO chaotic, selfish, and dramatic. If he had truly died in season 1, we could have seen John B. wrestle with that finality, and how to cope with loss in the face of finding the treasure and falling in love with Sarah.

And Finally, Outer Banks Should Have Ended After Season 1

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Outer Banks season 1 was exactly what we needed at the height of the pandemic. It was escapist — both in terms of the beach vacation vibes, but also because the '00s aesthetic took us right back to simpler times — and it had such a wonderfully resolved finale that some fans think nothing has matched it.

Do you agree with any of these Outer Banks opinions? I'm such a romance fan, I don't know what I'd do if the show didn't have JJ and Kiara get together! Check out all the best New TV Shows coming this year for more.

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Mariska Hargitay is the woman of the hour anywhere she goes, with her iconic Law & Order: SVUrole as Olivia Benson under her belt for the last 25 years. The character is an absolute advocate to women — and assault victims of any gender — through her words, actions, and powerful convictions of each perpetrator on the show. She takes great care with her victims and pursues perpetrators with fervor, and slowly as you watch the show..the line blurs between Olivia and Mariska.

This isn't anything new — just recently Mariska literally stopped production on the show to help a child (who mistook her for an actual police officer) find her mom. It's just who Mariska is. She walks the walk and talks the talk — including during her speech at Variety's Power of Women's Power of Women event.

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As a Power of Women honoree, Mariska was recognized in regards to her work as an advocate for sexual assault survivors. She took the stage and used her platform to discuss rape and assault conviction reversals, shining a light on the recent overturned ruling in Harvey Weinstein's landmark NYC case. Here's what she said:

Today I want to talk about reversing convictions, and more specifically I want to talk to you about how impossible it is to reverse mine. It’s impossible to reverse my conviction that survivors matter. It is impossible to reverse my conviction that what happens to us matters, and that our society must respond to survivors with a more a compassionate, holistically, deeper, and more nuanced understanding of what healing means.

It is impossible to reverse my conviction that after a trauma, survivors can reclaim lives of hope, of possibility, of audacious risk, beautiful intimacy, and glorious, glorious abundant joy. And I stand before you as evidence of that statement.

It is impossible to reverse my conviction that we must listen to survivors as experts on what justice means. It is extraordinary how little their voices are consulted, let alone incorporated, in the process of deciding how to repair harm. Justice is not a one-size-fits-all journey.

It is impossible to reverse my conviction that patriarchal impunity has to end. Patriarchal impunity is when a male-dominated system exempts perpetrators from punishment. Studies show that only 20% of all rape cases in the U.S. are reported to the police, and that between 5 and 0% of all rapes result in a guilty plea or a conviction. So why do 80% of victims not report? Because they're met with a system that grants impunity to perpetrators; a system that blames victims; a system that accepts only those victims who are experienced as "real" rape; a system that completely misunderstands the neurobiology of trauma, which causes behavior in women that doesn't fit the picture of how a "real victim" would act.

Is that change needed that victims should just pull themselves together? Just buck up and report anyway? No. No, it's the system that receives them that needs to change

It is impossible to reverse my conviction — and the conviction of my extraordinary team, The Joyful Heart — that the backlog of untested rape kits can be brought to zero; that the testing of all new kits must be mandated; that we need a statewide kit tracking system; and that survivors have the right to access the status of their kits.

It is impossible to reverse my conviction that grammar — yes, grammar — that we use when we speak about rape must change. In the sentence, "A woman is raped," there's a crime and there's a victim, but there's no perpetrator. Where's the perpetrator? Where is he? Statistically, as we know, most likely he's walking free. He's so free that he doesn't even appear in the language about the crime that he committed. Is that not extraordinary? It's extraordinary that in the very grammar, the perpetrator goes free. Reintroducing perpetrators in the language of rape will make some very unwieldy grammar, but that's the nature of change. It's unwieldy, it's messy, it's uncomfortable, but it's necessary.

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Hargitay continued on in her prolific speech to describe that rape shouldn't be considered a "crime of passion" because it's "not simply the next step in the trajectory of his passion" when a man takes a consensual hookup too far and assaults a woman against her will. She stated that it's "an exercise of power," doubling down that the language we use is important.

The speech went on to address that rape is both about power and control, as a "construct" that was "built, and assembled, and reinforced over time." She noted that there are people with these positions of power — and she specifically called out those in the entertainment industry — that could make a difference and aligned themselves to victims and survivors.

After this and some other remarks, Hargitay specifically called out the Weinstein conviction reversal. She said:

I do want to say something about the Harvey Weinstein conviction, specifically about the reason that it was overturned: too many women's voices. Too many women's voices were allowed to speak. Hallelujah! Amen! I can't imagine anything more beautiful than that. The Daily podcast episode talked about how it was so risky for the prosecution to have that many women testify. Risky to let women speak? You're damn right it is!

Too many women speaking brings change. Too many women speaking shakes the establishment. Too many women means we get listened to more, and people might actually hear what we have to say. Look what happened when women started saying just two words, right? Me too — just as an example — a tidal wave of change. Me too.

And then of course, there was the response: the Me Too Movement. The backlash. The examination of whether the changes that have come are lasting, or are even positive. Of course there's a backlash! What did they expect? For women to speak repeatedly, loudly, together, with a purpose — for there to be no backlash? The backlash is evidence of how powerful those voices were, how powerful those voices ARE.

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After Emily in Paris season 3 dropped on Netflix in December of 2022, we were hoping to get the fourth installment of the hit show in 2023. But production halted when the WGA writers' strike, then the SAG-AFTRA actors' strike went to affect, and our beloved cast and crew campaigned for better wages and industry protection. But with the end of the writers' strike, and new SAG negotiations, Emily in Paris season 4 finally began production in February 2024 — and I can already tell you there's sure to be plenty of drama and French fashion this time around.

Not only will we see Emily in Paris (see what I did there?!) but she's also pulling an Audrey Hepburn and taking a little Roman Holiday. That's right — our favorite Parisians are heading to Italy! If that doesn't sound like a dreamy comfort show then I don't know what does. Here's everything we know about the upcoming season of your favorite TV brain candy!!

Is Emily in Paris season 4 coming soon?

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Via Variety, Emily in Paris season 4 began production in Paris the week of January 15! "Did someone say Saison Quatre?!" Lily Collins says in her Instagram post announcing production. "Finally reunited with my @emilyinparis fam back in Paris and it feels so good. Although, I may need to brush up on my selfie skills for Emily’s sake…"

Now the wait is over! According to the official announcementfor Emily in Paris, we know part one drops on Netflix August 15, followed by part 2 on September 12. I've been impatiently waiting for this considering we didn't know how filming would be impacted by things like the WGA writers strike!

Is Emily in Paris filmed in Paris?

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Yes, Emily in Paris is filmed on location in Paris! We got our first look at Emily in Paris season 4 when Lily Collins and Ashley Park were seen filming in the City of Love (via Daily Mail). The costumes for the series are still as bold and bright as ever, with Ashley's Mindy wearing cobalt and metallic boots, and Lily's Emily dressed head-to-toe in lemon yellow. I can't wait to see what these best friends get up to this season! Check out our Paris travel recommendations to live out your own Emily in Paris dreams ;).

On April 27, Lily Collins confirmed Emily in Paris season 4 had wrapped its France shoot and that the cast & crew have swapped the City of Love for the Eternal City! "When you’re the first ones on the dance floor at the Paris wrap party. Next stop: Rome!" she says on Instagram. Late spring is literally the perfect time to film in Italy and I just know this season is going to give me more wanderlust than ever before. I need gelato!

What's Emily In Paris season 4 about?

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Season 3 left us with a huge cliffhanger: Alfie breaks up with Emily, Camille learns she's pregnant with Gabriel's baby, Benoit's "Mon Soleil" has been chosen for the Eurovision Song Contest, and Emily and Gabriel realize they've been in love with each other the whole time. Whew.

Emily in Paris season 4 will have a ton of cliffhangers to bring full circle, and a bunch of damage that all the characters need to heal. We know from the Netflix TUDUM fan event that we might also see Emily have to deal with an ultimatum head-on, as well as an unexpected twist. Plus, it looks like she's heading on a "Roman holiday," according to lead actress Lily Collins. We'll take any nod to an Audrey Hepburn movie, please and thank you!

Is Alfie coming back in season 4 of Emily in Paris?

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We don't have OFFICIAL word on whether Alfie (played by Lucien Laviscount) will return for Emily in Paris season 4, but we're hoping for his sake that he gets some closure. Lucien wants to come back as well! "[The dream is] to keep this gravy train going and just to kind of really live in this world a little bit longer," he says in an interview with Elle. " The writers on the show and the creators behind it and everyone that comes into contact with it is so amazing and fantastic. Their minds [have] way, way, way, way surpassed mine. So, yeah. I’ll let them do their thing.”

Who else is in the Emily in Paris season 4 cast?

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We can expect the rest of the cast — Lily Collins as Emily, Lucas Bravo as Gabriel, Ashley Park as Mindy, Camille Razat as Camille, Philippine Leroy-Beaulieu as Sylvie, Samuel Arnold as Julian, and Bruno Gouery as Luc — to return.

Will there be a season 5 of Emily in Paris?

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It looks like Emily in Paris season 4 will not be the final season, according to creator Darren Star. “There’s a lot more story to tell here and we’re not wrapping things up anytime soon,” Star tells Elle. “And also hopefully season four isn’t the end either. I feel like we’re all creatively feeling like we’re in the middle of something not heading towards the end.”

Darren also told Deadline season 4 is "not necessarily conceived as a final chapter. I think like every other show, it’s a rich ensemble. There’s no end in sight until everybody feels like it’s time to end. And I don’t think this show is limited by a number of seasons, I think it’s limited by everybody’s enthusiasm and excitement about doing it and telling stories about these characters."

We'll take as many seasons of Emily in Paris as they'll give us!!

What has the cast said about Emily in Paris season 4?

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Lucas Bravo told People he's excited for a coming-of-age for Gabriel. "When you start a character, then there's a year where you experience the world and you mature, you become another person and you come back and it's exactly the day you left off," he says. "I'm happy that in season four I'll be able to bring more of what I became and what I've experienced in the past four years."

Even though Lily Collins is now an executive producer, she doesn't want to know TOO much about the future of the show. “Darren and I speak, on occasion, about where he’s thinking of going, but he also doesn’t wanna spoil too much for me because there is a fine line,” she tells Collider. “I don’t wanna know everything because I want to be led with the writing, but I am also curious because, as a producer wanting to celebrate the other characters, I’m very curious to see what their trajectories are."

What happened at the end of Emily in Paris season 3?

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To be fully prepared for Emily in Paris season 4, it's important to remember just what happened during season 3! The junior season was a bumpy ride for Emily, and it ends with the craziest finale yet. After Camille and Gabriel decide to get married, Camille stops the wedding, saying she knows Gabriel is in love with Emily instead of her. This declaration leads Alfie to break up with our leading lady because he refuses to be her second choice (and honestly, I respect it). That's not the only shocker because Camille also reveals that she's pregnant with Gabriel's child, which comes as a surprise to everyone. Meanwhile, Mindy learns Benoit has submitted a song (specifically "Mon Soleil") to the Eurovision Song Contest and Laurent has his heart set on opening a club in Paris.

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