When Amy Schumer, a verifiable comedy queen, and Lena Dunham, Girls star and founder聽of Lenny Letter, start gabbing, no one expects it to be boring. And to be fair, when you鈥檙e chatting with a friend, you should be allowed to let loose a little. But a new interview released in Lenny has left some folks scratching their heads over their comments 鈥 certain sections in particular.

Lena Dunham _ Amy Schumer

The interview was released to help promote Amy鈥檚 new book, The Girl With the Lower Back Tattoo, and starts with some pretty normal musings before veering off into iffy territory. Then it continues with the two reminiscing about this year鈥檚 Met Gala, with a few different passages that have left readers cringing hard.


Amy Schumer

Lena: 鈥淵ou and I were literally sitting across from each other at the Met Ball, and it was like a crazy countdown to when we could escape. You were like, 鈥榃e鈥檙e honored to be here. We鈥檙e honored to be here.鈥欌

Amy: 鈥淚 left so early. When did you leave?鈥

Lena: 鈥淚 attempted to grind my ass on Michael B. Jordan for an additional twenty minutes and then left right after you. I was sitting next to Odell Beckham Jr., and it was so amazing because it was like he looked at me and he determined I was not the shape of a woman by his standards. He was like, 鈥楾hat鈥檚 a marshmallow. That鈥檚 a child. That鈥檚 a dog.鈥 It wasn鈥檛 mean 鈥 he just seemed confused. The vibe was very much like, 鈥楧o I want to fuck it? Is it wearing a 鈥 yep, it鈥檚 wearing a tuxedo. I鈥檓 going to go back to my cell phone.鈥 It was like we were forced to be together, and he literally was scrolling Instagram rather than have to look at a woman in a bow tie. I was like, 鈥楾his should be called the Metropolitan Museum of Getting Rejected by Athletes.鈥欌

Amy: 鈥淵ou were dressed like a boy, and you looked sexy, and I really appreciated you showing me your tits several times.鈥

Lena Dunham

Jezebel gets it right, saying, 鈥淒unham鈥檚 deployment of two black men here as both object 鈥 鈥業 attempted to grind my ass on Michael B. Jordan鈥 鈥 and misogynist 鈥 鈥楧o I want to fuck it?鈥 鈥 is telling, and deeply infuriating, particularly in her projection of an idea about black male athletes and their sexual prowess, all done to overemphasize how much she does not fit into a certain beauty or fashion ideal.鈥

But it didn鈥檛 end there. Lena and Amy go on to discuss the controversy around Inside Amy Schumer writer Kurt Metzger, who recently got a lot of flack for a viral Facebook post he wrote about whether rape victims should be believed. Many Schumer fans criticized the comedienne for employing Metzger, and those fans鈥 reactions made Schumer resentful (鈥淚 was resentful of the lack of trust.鈥). Then they go on to imply that women who found Metzger鈥檚 comments hurtful were somehow weaker than they are:

Lena: The other thing that I get really crazy about is this new world in which women aren鈥檛 just supposed to be protected from actions, they鈥檙e supposed to be protected from language. Women are so strong. My ovary has basically exploded in my stomach twice, and I was pretty chill about it. You think I can鈥檛 listen to some short comedy loser say something dumb about rape?

Amy: Right.

Lena: I鈥檓 not going to cry, I鈥檓 a fucking queen.

Amy: Yes!

Lena: I don鈥檛 think anyone should be a troll on the Internet, but I also get crazy about the idea of trigger warnings because a book isn鈥檛 what I have a problem with. What I have a problem with is actions in the world. I understand that art and public figures teach people how to behave, but I want to be outraged about what鈥檚 truly happening, because it鈥檚 always happening.

The interview continued, and the two also made some pretty insensitive comments regarding the murder of two women during a Trainwreck screening (鈥淚t is never some toothless f*cking crackhead who gets killed鈥).

We totally get that these ladies like to be funny and that being risqu茅 is part of the biz, but there鈥檚 a chance that this time, they鈥檝e crossed the line.

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(h/t Jezebel; photos via Jemal Countess, Larry Busacca/Getty)